View source for toldju

==== valsi ====
toldju
==== type ====
lujvo
==== creator ====
[[personal/Ilmen|Ilmen]]
==== time entered ====
Wed Sep  9 14:38:06 2015
 
== English ==
=== Definition #67818 ===
 
==== definition ====
x<sub>1</sub> frustrates / hinders x<sub>2</sub> from doing event/activity x<sub>3</sub>; x<sub>1</sub> makes doing x<sub>3</sub> harder for x<sub>2</sub>
==== notes ====
Not the emotional sense of "frustrate", which is [[se|se]] [[steba|steba]] or [[fanza|fanza]]. This is a difficult concept to gloss in English; the desired sense is more like "un-help", and is equivalent to [[to'e|to'e]] [[sidju|sidju]]. See [[zunti|zunti]]
==== gloss words ====

<ul><li>[[natlang/en/frustrate|frustrate ; make something harder]]</li></ul>

==== created by ====
[[personal/spheniscine|spheniscine]]
==== vote information ====
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==== time ====
Wed Sep  9 17:55:08 2015



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=== Etymology ===
== lojban ==
=== Definition #67812 - Preferred ===
 
==== definition ====
x<sub>1</sub> to'e sidju x<sub>2</sub> fi x<sub>3</sub> .i va'i x<sub>1</sub> gasnu lo nu x<sub>3</sub> zenba lo ka nandu x<sub>2</sub> .i ja x<sub>1</sub> zunti lo nu x<sub>2</sub> ckaji gi'a zukte x<sub>3</sub>
==== notes ====
srana fa zo [[sidju|sidju]] .e zo [[to'e|to'e]] .e zo [[zunti|zunti]]
==== created by ====
[[personal/Ilmen|Ilmen]]
==== vote information ====
3
     
==== time ====
Wed Sep  9 14:38:07 2015



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