https://wiki.lojban.io/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=zmaduje zmaduje - Revision history 2026-04-29T12:45:19Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://wiki.lojban.io/index.php?title=zmaduje&diff=22632&oldid=prev Nalvaizmiku: Import words via API 2026-01-13T17:23:25Z <p>Import words via API</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>==== valsi ====<br /> zmaduje<br /> ==== type ====<br /> fu&#039;ivla<br /> ==== creator ====<br /> [[personal/krtisfranks|krtisfranks]]<br /> ==== time entered ====<br /> Mon Jul 18 20:18:28 2016<br />  <br /> == English ==<br /> === Definition #68837 ===<br />  <br /> ==== definition ====<br /> x&lt;sub&gt;1&lt;/sub&gt; is more than/greater than/exceeds x&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; in property x&lt;sub&gt;3&lt;/sub&gt; (ka) and the x&lt;sub&gt;4&lt;/sub&gt;th (li; 1 or 2) argument of this selbri actually has/is/expresses/attains property x&lt;sub&gt;3&lt;/sub&gt; according to x&lt;sub&gt;5&lt;/sub&gt;.<br /> ==== notes ====<br /> <br /> &quot;[[zmadu|zmadu]]&quot; implies that one thing is more than another in some property, but not that either actually achieves/has that property. For example, a two-year-old is older than a one-year-old but neither is old by normal human standards. This word indicates that not only is one of the referenced sumti more than another in some specified property, but at least one of them does have that property. So, an octagenarian is older than a toddler, and the former (but not the latter) actually is old by normal human standards. In my cases, if &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;4&lt;/sub&gt; = 2&lt;/span&gt;, then not only does &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; have property &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;3&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, but &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;1&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; also has property &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;3&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; (just by a greater amount/to a greater extent); it is uncommon and indicative of a pathology in definition for &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;4&lt;/sub&gt; = 2&lt;/span&gt; to not imply that &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;4&lt;/sub&gt; = 1&lt;/span&gt; is also true. The converse is untrue: &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;1&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; may have property &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;3&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; even while &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; does not (&#039;&lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;4&lt;/sub&gt; = 1&lt;/span&gt;&#039; is true but &#039;&lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;4&lt;/sub&gt; = 2&lt;/span&gt;&#039; is false, as in the octagenerian versus toddler example); however, in order to exclude the possibility that &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;4&lt;/sub&gt; = 2&lt;/span&gt; when &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;4&lt;/sub&gt; = 1&lt;/span&gt; is specified, one must explicitly specify that it is so - &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;4&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt; necessarily tells which argument does indeed satisfy the proposition of having property &lt;span class=&quot;MATH&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;x&lt;/i&gt;&lt;sub&gt;3&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, but it possibly may not necessarily give any information as to which argument does not do so. See: &quot;[[trajije|trajije]]&quot;.<br /> <br /> ==== gloss words ====<br /> <br /> &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;[[natlang/en/more and actually is|more and actually is]]&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;[[natlang/en/more than and realized in having/being|more than and realized in having/being]]&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== created by ====<br /> [[personal/krtisfranks|krtisfranks]]<br /> ==== vote information ====<br /> 2<br /> <br /> ==== time ====<br /> Sun Dec 26 19:28:59 2021<br /> <br /> [[comments.html?valsi=30663;definition=68837|[View<br /> Comments For This Definition]]] <br /> <br /> &lt;br/&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;+1&quot;&gt;Examples&lt;/font&gt;<br /> &lt;hr/&gt;<br /> &lt;dl&gt;<br /> &lt;/dl&gt;<br /> <br /> === Etymology ===<br /> == lojban ==<br /> === Definition #69447 - Preferred ===<br />  <br /> ==== definition ====<br /> x&lt;sub&gt;1&lt;/sub&gt; zmadu x&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; fi x&lt;sub&gt;3&lt;/sub&gt; noi lo jai fa xi mo&#039;e x&lt;sub&gt;4&lt;/sub&gt; (to du li pa .a li re toi) no&#039;a cu ca&#039;a ckaji ke&#039;a ma&#039;i x&lt;sub&gt;5&lt;/sub&gt;<br /> ==== notes ====<br /> lo ka zmadu na poi&#039;i ro da ro de ro di zo&#039;u lo du&#039;u da de di me&#039;au ke&#039;a cu nibli lo du&#039;u da .a de ca&#039;a ckaji di .i zo zmaduje ku&#039;i ja&#039;a go&#039;i<br /> ==== gloss words ====<br /> <br /> &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;[[natlang/jbo/zmaduje|zmaduje]]&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;<br /> <br /> ==== created by ====<br /> [[personal/selpahi|selpahi]]<br /> ==== vote information ====<br /> 2<br /> <br /> ==== time ====<br /> Tue Mar 7 23:54:02 2017<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;br/&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;+1&quot;&gt;Examples&lt;/font&gt;<br /> &lt;hr/&gt;<br /> &lt;dl&gt;<br /> &lt;/dl&gt;<br /> <br /> === Etymology ===</div> Nalvaizmiku