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==== valsi ==== | |||
abvele | |||
==== type ==== | |||
fu'ivla | |||
==== creator ==== | |||
[[personal/krtisfranks|krtisfranks]] | |||
==== time entered ==== | |||
Wed May 31 23:31:48 2017 | |||
== English == | |||
=== Definition #69542 - Preferred === | |||
==== definition ==== | |||
x<sub>1</sub> is a grandparent of x<sub>2</sub> by bond/tie/relation/standard x<sub>3</sub> (not necessarily genetic/biological nor necessarily directly ancestral); x<sub>1</sub> is an associated member of x<sub>2</sub>'s parent(s)'s parent(s)'s generation. | |||
==== notes ==== | |||
No prefix "great-"s may immediately precede the English translation of this word when the root is "grandparent"/"grandchild" or the like (due to slippage of clarity in reference to the pertinent generation); furthermore, it must refer to that generation (so no additional "great-"s may immediately precede the English translation of this word when it means "great-uncle"/"great-aunt" or the reciprocal relationships, and it cannot refer to uncles, aunts, nieces, or nephews). Might apply to great-aunts and great-uncles; it does not in any way intersect with the reference set of "[[famti|famti]]" in a simple family/tree. See also: [[tcuti|tcuti]], which specifically excludes the potential meaning of grandparent/grandchild and which specifically includes the meaning of aunt/uncle/nephew/niece and higher generational separations too (such as great-great-uncle vel sim., unlike this word which is restricted to the grandparents' generation); [[riryrirni|riryrirni]] (or the like), which excludes the potential meaning of great-uncle/great-aunt or the reciprocal relationships. See also: "[[dzena|dzena]]" (which is more general and not necessarily familial by any given standard). | |||
==== gloss words ==== | |||
<ul><li>[[natlang/en/grandchild|grandchild]]</li><li>[[natlang/en/grand-daughter|grand-daughter]]</li><li>[[natlang/en/granddaughter|granddaughter]]</li><li>[[natlang/en/grandfather|grandfather ; generic]]</li><li>[[natlang/en/grandmother|grandmother ; generic]]</li><li>[[natlang/en/grandparent|grandparent ; generalized]]</li><li>[[natlang/en/grandson|grandson]]</li><li>[[natlang/en/great-aunt|great-aunt]]</li><li>[[natlang/en/great-nephew|great-nephew]]</li><li>[[natlang/en/great-niece|great-niece]]</li><li>[[natlang/en/great-uncle|great-uncle]]</li></ul> | |||
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==== time ==== | |||
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=== Etymology === | |||
Latest revision as of 13:54, 13 January 2026
valsi
abvele
type
fu'ivla
creator
time entered
Wed May 31 23:31:48 2017
English
Definition #69542 - Preferred
definition
x1 is a grandparent of x2 by bond/tie/relation/standard x3 (not necessarily genetic/biological nor necessarily directly ancestral); x1 is an associated member of x2's parent(s)'s parent(s)'s generation.
notes
No prefix "great-"s may immediately precede the English translation of this word when the root is "grandparent"/"grandchild" or the like (due to slippage of clarity in reference to the pertinent generation); furthermore, it must refer to that generation (so no additional "great-"s may immediately precede the English translation of this word when it means "great-uncle"/"great-aunt" or the reciprocal relationships, and it cannot refer to uncles, aunts, nieces, or nephews). Might apply to great-aunts and great-uncles; it does not in any way intersect with the reference set of "famti" in a simple family/tree. See also: tcuti, which specifically excludes the potential meaning of grandparent/grandchild and which specifically includes the meaning of aunt/uncle/nephew/niece and higher generational separations too (such as great-great-uncle vel sim., unlike this word which is restricted to the grandparents' generation); riryrirni (or the like), which excludes the potential meaning of great-uncle/great-aunt or the reciprocal relationships. See also: "dzena" (which is more general and not necessarily familial by any given standard).
gloss words
- grandchild
- grand-daughter
- granddaughter
- grandfather ; generic
- grandmother ; generic
- grandparent ; generalized
- grandson
- great-aunt
- great-nephew
- great-niece
- great-uncle
created by
vote information
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time
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